Ran out of thread for my large order so til I get it delivered I switched over to the other order I have......this guy wanted F patches on his jackets, but I don't sew the patched on, so I told him I can do faux patches, so I stitched right onto the jacket and the satin outline gives it the patch look.......he loves it and saves him money as he doesn't have to take it over to someone else to stitch it on