by shirlener88 06 May 2009

a service order for it, even though - I had purchased the machine from him in High Point, NC and it was still under the 1st year of warrenty - he had serviced in before and never written a service order - well - to make a long story short - he KEPT my embroidery machine - I have been fighting him in court for the last two and 1/2 years - I even bought another Babylock Ellegante2 Embroidery Machine, but from another dealer. I flew to North Carolina - which is across the country for me now - in February for the court case - today I found out that the court has ordered him to pay me for the Babylock Ellegante Embroidery Machine, plus some damages. YIPPEE! He can of coarse appeal the case, but it will not do him any good to do so, but he will delay it, so that he doesn't have to pay, I know this man, very well. But this will not hender me any, as I see it - I WON!!!!!!!! Can you believe that????

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by shirlener88 07 May 2009

I do thank each of you for your support and comments - I have had a really busy day and couldn't get back until now - but I wanted to tell you all - I appreciate you and always keep very good records of your purchases and service on your machine's - you never know - when you might need them - I had pictures of my machine, alone and with my grands - also at a friends house - but I didn't have the SS# of it. Not that it mattered in this rulling - but it could have - as this man also sold my machine to another person and from that I could have gotten him on other charges - but without it - I couldn't go down that road. My newer machine - I have all the info on it - not that I ever think that I will need them - but I did learn a thing or two - I hadn't had any of that on either of the machine's that I did purchase from this man - so there fore - when I tried to contact Babylock - they would not listen to me - as I didn't have a SS# and they would not step in without it. I just want you each to realize that you have rights and you need to stand up for yourself when those rights have been stepped on. Unconditional Love, Shirlene

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by castelyn 07 May 2009

That is fantastic news Shirlene. I feel the same if I know I am right, I will put up a fight and take them to court, does not matter who it is, or how long it takes.(The last person I took to court was a doctor for an amount of +- R10000-00 and I won).
Hugs Yvonne

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 07 May 2009

Yvonne, well congratulations to you - WOW!

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by colonies1 07 May 2009

good for you............people like that shouldn;t be allowed to do or be in business

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 07 May 2009

Joyce, thank you and I tend to agree with you. *4U

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by migs 06 May 2009

Good for you. I guess the moral of this story is to always get a work order or something just so people like that can't take advantage of others & try to get away with it. Sure glad it came out in your favour.

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 07 May 2009

Marg, you have no idea how many times this man had serviced two of my machines - without service orders - but to have him do this to me - a very good and loyal customer - I was shocked to no end - but I wasn't going to allow him to get away with it - either. Thanks for your support.

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by jasanne 06 May 2009

Great news. Good on you for pursuing the matter, so many (probably me included) would just let the dealer get away with it because they either don't know how to push for resolution, or aren't strong enough to. Many sewers are elderly and wouldn't be able to take this sort of action. Hopefully the dealer won't try another fast one on anyone else and your efforts will have been well worth it.

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 07 May 2009

Lianne, thank you. I am only hoping that he will not be allowed to do this to another - that he will have to change his business practice as the result of this - I wouldn't want this to happen to another.

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by mandor64 06 May 2009

Dear Shirlene, Well done!! Great satisfaction, but even greater when you all get paid!! You should have maybe used "Judge Judy", for a speedier court case! Ha.. ha.. Hugs, Mary

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 07 May 2009

Mary, thank you - oh the idea of a speedier case was what I wanted - I never thought that it would go past my lawyer contacting him - actually - I never thought that it would end up in court and him putting the system into a couple year case, either. *4U

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by ksgram1 06 May 2009

You go girl! Wish I could send you your favorite dessert to celebrate. Be sure to report this guy to Babylock. They won't want him working for them long. In other words, he'll get his in the end....That's just where I'd like to plant my big boot. Sorry, I guess that wasn't nice. I'll try harder. (Smile)

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 07 May 2009

ksgram1, thank you - you are funny and I would have loved to have received that dessert to celebrate, too - Hehehe!

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by debleerl 06 May 2009

Maybe he will decide to pay you rather than spend any more money on legal fees. Does Babylock know about his un-ethical behavior? I'm sure they would not what to be associated with such a dealership.

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 07 May 2009

Deb, the strange thing is - he started to sell Brother about a year ago - so I think he is letting go of the Babylock connection - hmmmmmmmmmmm! Thanks! *4U

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by 4evertwa 06 May 2009

What a story! It just goes to show how people you would assume are ethical business operators can be crooks! I'm so happy to read the justice system was on your side. For you it was a win-win. Is this dealer still in business? Certainly a heads up for anyone in High Point, NC not to purchase a machine from this dishonest person. Congratulations on your WIN, compensation, and a happy ending!

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 07 May 2009

4evertwa, thank you very much - I am happy - it ended in my favor, as I always knew it would - I had alot of things to show that I owned that machine and people that knew I took it in for repairs, too. I am shocked by his behavior and hope that he gets his just dues over this through the court system, too. Thank you - *4U

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by vixentlc 06 May 2009

A good idea from maleah to put it in the paper, I'm sure you are not the only lady this man with held excellent service from? Well done Shirlener!

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 07 May 2009

Vix, thank you dear - I am still considering what to do about it all - thanks!

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by designgirl 06 May 2009

Great news for you, hopefully he has to pay very soon. It will be like found money when you finally get paid, because you have waited so long. Congrats on winning your case.

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 07 May 2009

Lynn, thank you very much and I do agree - that is is like found money - now!

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by quiltgrama 06 May 2009

You go girl I am so happy for you. I really hurts when someone wrongs you. Makes it hard to trust. LOL Lisa

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 07 May 2009

Lisa, thank you - you know - trusting this new dealer has been hard and he wasn't even involved - you know? But I have trusted him with my machine a couple times. Thanks! *4U

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by maleah 06 May 2009

Good for you. I would put an add in the local paper of how shabby he was...

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 07 May 2009

maleah, I have thought about that for the past two years - but not sure that it would serve any purpose today - I will follow through with a couple other suggestions - thanks so much! *4U Shirlene

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by mollymarie 06 May 2009

you go girl fight for what is right

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 07 May 2009

Carol - I did and WON! Hehehe! Thanks!

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by marlakay 06 May 2009

Wow! Unbelieveable - that someone running a business could be so dishonest! I am glad that you followed through and hopefully will get justice - your money for the machine and your costs. I will make sure that I get a receipt if I take my machine in for servicing.

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 07 May 2009

Marlakay, thank you. As many times as I had taken that machine and another into this man - I had never worried about getting my machines back - but believe me - I don't walk out of a store without a receipt or service order NOW! Thanks, Shirlene

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by cloey 06 May 2009

good for you.

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 06 May 2009

thank you Cloey.

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by lflanders 06 May 2009

Shirlene, I admire you for hanging in there and fighting for what was right! He is no doubt a crook and should have to pay for what he tried to do to you. The bad part is that you have had the worry and the wait of all this time, not to forget about your money just being gone! He should not be allowed to have a business if he is so dishonest! I am glad you got what you went after and can get some peace of mind now that the Judge has made his ruling! Way to go Gal! Linda in Ga

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 06 May 2009

Linda, thank you so much - if only we didn't have to worry about an appeal and that the check was in my hands - it would be so wonderful - until then - it still feels like there is no closure - I do feel that I accomplished alot, too - strange - huh? *4U

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by sissibrode 06 May 2009

There is Justice, i'm happy for you Shirlene *

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 06 May 2009

Well, for the past three months - I did think that the justice system had failed me and I was very upset about that, but now - it doesn't matter so much. *4U

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by camylow 06 May 2009

we also have the CCB we have to report to...I am bot sure if he has a state registeration like Oregon, but all conflicts are dealt through them. The BBB does file things, but a they don't go after licenses as hard as our CCB...

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 06 May 2009

So tell me - what is the CCB? I might have to look into this, too. Thanks so much - *4U

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by asterixsew Moderator 06 May 2009

What a story but glad to hear that the end is in sight. Well done for standing up for your rights.

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 06 May 2009

Caroline, thank you so much - it was very self defeating at times. *4U

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by iris2006 06 May 2009

That is good news Shirlene, I hope you will get the payment as soon as possible. Fight for your right does make sense.

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 06 May 2009

Thank you and to say this was a fight is very right - all this time - not knowing whether my lawyer understood the reasons to fight for a machine such as this and then to find out - he was listening and put together an unbelievable defense - it was hard to deal with the time frame - but now - I know - it was so worth the effort. *4U

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by quiltingqueen 06 May 2009

WOW! Good for you for keeping on top of everything and not giving up, like I'm sure he would've hoped you'd do.....especially since you now live across the country. Good for you for not stepping down, you must feel 'sew' empowered! Keep hanging in there for the payment and don't give up. Keep us posted!

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 06 May 2009

QQ, thank you - if was never easy and many a time - I almost gave up hope - especially in the last couple months waiting for the ruling - can you believe it took them since February to rule on it? Thanks for the support and encouragement - I will, too! *4U

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by meganne 06 May 2009

GREAT NEWS!!!! If he is smart he will just pay you what he owes you! A hex on him if he doesn't/
I hope you were also awarded court costs and out of pocket expenses for having to travel so far.
Hugs n roses, M

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 06 May 2009

Thanks Meg, I did get the cost of the machine and damages - the lawyer will get his fees and I will let you know about the hex - if needed. Hehehe! The expenses were part of the damages, I guess. *4U

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An embroidered hex?

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by shirlener88 06 May 2009

I want to thank you all for your comments and support - you are the best!

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by loish 06 May 2009

Glad to hear that you finally got through the court. Hope he will finally pay up. And you DEFINITELY should tell the BBB so others don't get the same treatment. Just send them a copy of the court ruling, it should give them what they need to know. Also your embroidery group - the court record is public information so you can't be accused of anything but making him madder than he already is (LOL) and they deserve to be warned about him! Love, Lois

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 06 May 2009

OH thank you Lois - that does give me courage to think about it - I do think that others need to know - what he did - he is a very evil man and does much more than what he did to me - I have watched some and didn't say anything to others - hoping that I would get my day in court and I did and WON - thanks - I surely will take this to heart, too. *4U

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by gg2009 06 May 2009

You go girl! I am so happy that you won. Do you still have friends in quilt clubs, etc., from NC. Let them know what happened, and that YOU WON. But be careful how you tell them. You don't want to have any slander (although it won't be, because he deserves negative press) charges against you. Since he kept your machine, I wouldn't put anything past him.

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 06 May 2009

GG, thank you and the slander thing is part of the reason - that I just left the classes and didn't say anything to them - I didn't want a case against me - before I had my day in court - I would like to tell them - but feel that I would have to wait - until I had the money - more than anything - but he didn't just keep that machine - he sold it to another person. *4U

gg2009 by gg2009 06 May 2009

Rotten .. just rotten. Or should I say a crooked rotten person.

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by gerryvb 06 May 2009

congratulations, good news indeed!

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 06 May 2009

Gerry, dear - thank you - *4U

gg2009 by gg2009 06 May 2009

And the Judge said "Shirlene .. you go girl ... judgement for Shirlene" (cute graphics).

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by kathyjt 06 May 2009

Great news for you.

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 06 May 2009

Yes, Kathy it is - *4U

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by marjialexa Moderator 06 May 2009

Wow, congrats, Shirlene!! And yes, report him to the BBB and anyone else you can think of, call the local paper and have them write a story about the case. These kind of people should be shown up for what they are, to protect others from going thru the same ordeal. I can't imagine him thinking he could get away with keeping your machine, but what a terrible hassle to get your rights in this one. I'm so glad you're on the winning end of the deal!! Love, Marji

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 06 May 2009

Marji, I don't know - about the paper - I don't live in NC any more - but I have thought about calling the BBB - over the last couple years - I did want to take an ad out in the newspaper - when this first started - I never did tell any of the other ladies from my embroidery club - why I stopped going into the store - but I did want to - then we moved - across the country - I appreciate you support and your thoughts - I do feel good - I don't have closure, yet - but I will - if the courts can make him pay. thank you - *4U

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by jrob Moderator 06 May 2009

Good for you. I do so HOPE you have called the Better Business Bureau in NC and reported this. He should not be allowed to do this to anyone else.

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 06 May 2009

Jerrilyn, I had thought about it - but wanted to be on the winning side - before I raised too much fuss - publicly - do you really think that I should? Will it not be reported, anyway? Thank you! *4U

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by dailylaundry 06 May 2009

Good for you!!!! I hope you receive your money sooner than you think!!!!

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 06 May 2009

Laura, thank you - *4U

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by poppet 06 May 2009

Oh that is great & I hope he pays up fuss free. You did win

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 06 May 2009

Oh - that would be nice - but I am sure he will not - thank you - *4U

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by ewroland 06 May 2009

Good for you!

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 06 May 2009

Eugenia, thank you - you be be careful - *4U

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by manami 06 May 2009

I'm very happy for you, Shirlene! I wish all the bad people would start to do good, so no fight and everyone would be happy! Hugs, Yoriko

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 06 May 2009

Yoriko, thank you - it was hard waiting to go to court all this time - I knew that I had enough info to prove my case - but I still was scared. I wish that, too! *4U

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by waterlily 06 May 2009

That's wonderful news! And far too long coming! I'm glad you finally got satisfaction!!

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shirlener88 by shirlener88 06 May 2009

Colleen, yes much tooooooo long - satisfaction, but not closure, yet - thanks - *4U

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