Hi What is better winding your own bobbins or buying pre wound ones. It seems to me the pre wounds have a cardboard side and the sensor would not read when the bobbin is almost empty? Suzanne

I have a Bernina, and the dealer told me if you ever use anything other than a Bernina bobbin you void the warranty, so I've never bought pre-wound bobbins. I'm afraid of causing more problems---
Joann

Thanks so much for all the info and thank you Eastwitch for all the additional help, web sites and info. I think I will give it a try and see how it works out. If it doesn't well than I will go back to winding my own. You cuties are the best at getting a question answered with expertise !Suzanne

Here are 2 websites that sell both the L Sized Pre wound bobbins and the Class15/SizeA plastic sided Pre wound Bobbins for very good prices.
Kittyshacks Antics they have only the white thread on the polastic sided pre wounds

http://store02.prostores.com/serv...

Metro thread has both white and black thread on plastic sided pre wound bobbins in both sizes.
Scroll down the page to get to the plastic sided pre wounds.
http://metroemb.com/Bobbins.html

EastWitch2

The only thing I could find out online about the Elissimo is that is has a second bobbin case for pre wound bobbins.
Nothing about the size of the pre wounds bobbins.
I would ask your dealer.
EastWitch2

prewounds are great but more expensive than doing it yourself.****

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by sdrise 13 Aug 2010

Thanks

In my ignorance I bought a gross of prewound bobbins from Ebay and they didn't fit my machine! However, they were very cheap so I wind the thread off them onto bobbins that do fit. The experience taught me to be more careful!

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by sdrise 13 Aug 2010

Oh No but at least you can still use the thread! Suzanne

Suzanne
Is your Babylock Elissimo machine a new model?

There are some charts online that show which size of pre wounds bobbins the different Brands and Models of machines take.

I looked on 2 different websites that have the charts and could not find your machine listed for either the L size or Class15/A size pre wounds.

You may want to check with your machine dealer to see if they know what size of pre wounds would fit your machine.

Or you could ask another question here on the forum, specifically asking what sizes pre wounds fit the Babylock Elissimo machine.


Hope someone here could answer with the right size for you to purchase.

Not all machines can use the pre wounds bobbins!

EastWitch2

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by sdrise 13 Aug 2010

Yes Brand new It's the one with the camera view of the needle area! Thanks for all your help. Suzanne

One good thing about the pre-wound is that you don't have to worry about if you are stretching your thread as you wind it yourself. Polyester thread will stretch quite a bit if you wind it at too high of a speed, and that will mess up your stitching. You can get a whole lot more thread on a pre-wound than you will ever be able to get on one you wind yourself. But, if you are doing something double-sided (like FSL, or towels if you are obsessive like I am) it is better to just carefully wind your own so that the top and bobbin threads match.

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by sdrise 13 Aug 2010

Thanks!

I always use prewound bobbins in my 300E I buy the plastic ones from creek creations. I find they go further than the ones I wind myself

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by sdrise 13 Aug 2010

Thanks for the info I will check it out! Suzanne

I wind my own. I found out that my main sewing machine uses the exact same tyoe of bobbin that my embroidery machine uses, even though they are different companies (Singer/Janome), so I wind them on my sewing machine. I also use actual bobbin thread because it's much finer. I find that one bobbin lasts quote a few embroideries, although I've never actually counted how many. If I had to venture a guess, I's probably say 8 0r 9. But I don't usually do ones that are very dense all over...maybe average out to approx 10,000 stitches - some more some less...

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by sdrise 13 Aug 2010

Thanks so much ! Suzanne

I do my own. While the machine is embroidering, I can wind extra bobbins at the same time. It works for me. Carol

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by sdrise 13 Aug 2010

Thats what I do Thanks!

I wind my own, first of all it only takes a few minutes and secondly most times I prefer the bobbin thread matches the top thread for designs that cover a large area just in case the bobbin thread starts to come up.

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by sdrise 13 Aug 2010

Thanks!

I use both. My pre wound bobbins dont have cardboard edges, when they are nearly used up I then wind them onto a bobbin. I also know that I can get about 40,000 stitches from a pre wound bobbins so though the sensor tells me the spool is running out I know from the stitch count

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by sdrise 13 Aug 2010

Good info Thanks Suzanne

I have used both - with the prewound cardboard bobbins, I have found that they will work, however, in order to have the sensor work, I have to remove one of the cardboard sides. Experiment with your machine and I think you will find that it will work fine. I have also used the plastic prewound bobbins-I have also found that I can rewind them when they are empty using a side bobbin winder. Works very well as well. Joan

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by sdrise 13 Aug 2010

Thank you ! Suzanne

Find out first which size your machine takes in the pre wound bobbins then you can find out where to buy them.

NEBS brand of pre wound bobbins are very good but only come in Size L.

There are other brands that come in both the Size L and the Class 15/size A pre wounds.

Something I forgot to mention is that you can buy pre wounds by the box of 100 or 144 pre wounds.
This is the best and cheapest way to buy them.

The prices vary from vendor to vendor that sell them so it is worth checking the prices at several places before buying.

EastWitch2

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by sdrise 13 Aug 2010

Thanks for the good info Suzanne

I use the pre wound bobbins and have never had a problem with any of them. Sideless, plastic sided or cardboard sides. My Ellageo sensor beeps far too soon when the bobbin starts to get low and it drives me crazy. I use the bobbin till it is empty.My PR600 doesn't warn me and I like it that way. The cardboard sided on the Ellageo work fine also. You can ask the different places for samples or they have small quantities you can purchase before you buy a lot. I get them where ever they are on sale and buy those that have the most thread on each bobbin. I don't wind my own unless it is for FSL. I usually buy a gross at a time.

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by sdrise 13 Aug 2010

Thanks so much Suzanne

I have used pre wound bobbins when I feel lazy, otherwise I wind about 10 bobbins at a time. I think the expense is less.

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by sdrise 13 Aug 2010

Thanks ladies! Suzanne

sdrise

What machine do you have?

The Home type of Sewing/Embroidery machines use the plastic sided prewound bobbins. These bobbins do allow the thread sensor to work to tell you when you are out of thread.

The carboard sided pre wounds are not recommended for the Home Type of Sewing/Embroidery machines. they leave lint in the bobbin case.

There are 2 sizes of the Plastic sided pre wounds bobbins for the Home Type machines.

There is size L and the other is Class 15/size A.
The Class 15/size A are a little taller when they sit in the bobbin case, both are the same size around.

You do have to know which size your machine takes.

There are 3 or 4 Brands of the plastic sided pre wound bobbins on the market.

Some have more thread on them than others.

Sometimes there is a bit too much thread wound on them and you may have to remove some off the bobbin so they fit in your machine right and unwind right while you stitch.

They usually come with 60 weight up to 75 weight polyester filiment thread wound on them.

There are some that have cotton thread on them for quilting and they have less thread on because the weight of the thread is heavier on them.

And the ones for embroidery do have more thread wound on them than the bobbins we wind on our machines so they do last longer when stitching.

Some of the older Home Styled machines can not use the pre wound bobbins as the bobbins load differently on the machine (from the front of the machine and not on the top of the sewing bed).

EastWitch2

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by sdrise 13 Aug 2010

I have an Elissimo by baby lock. Thanks for the lesson. A lot of great info! I think I will try thrm. Thanks so much !Suzanne

Are there any particular brands that are better than other brands?

I've never used the pre-wound bobbins, but everybody so far seems to think they are so much better to use. I guess I'll just have to give them a try.

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by sdrise 12 Aug 2010

I guess I will ask for some samples and give them a try too Thanks

I get the plastic NEBS for my Ellageo. It winds a good bobbin itself, but there is so much more on the prewound. I tried the sideless ones, but she didn't like them.

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by sdrise 12 Aug 2010

Thank you !

Many of the prewound bobbins come with plastic sides, so the sensor can still read when they are empty. I really like the prewound ones but a few times there seems to be a flaw in the winding as the thread breaks a lot and rethreading doesn't seem to work, but when I chang the bobbin everything is just great again. Also haven't used a prewound black bobbin the store where I buy my supplies doesn't carry them in black and I just haven't ordered off the internet. Hate having to say around for deliverys and I also like to see what I am buying before buying. Just me.
With FSL I have to wind my own due to needing the top and bottom thread to be the same.

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by sdrise 12 Aug 2010

Thank You Good insight!

Suzanne, I don't usually use pre wound bobbins much as the dealer suggested to use a special brand - but someone gave me some pre wound that have no sides at all - they seem to work alright - so far. I use the same color in the top and bobbin with my FSL work so much - Hehehe!

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by sdrise 12 Aug 2010

Thank You!

I use prewound bobbins in both my sewing/embroidery machine and in my multi-needle machine. Both read the bobbin and alert me before it runs out. I have used 2 different brands in my multi-needle with no problems.

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by sdrise 12 Aug 2010

Thanks

I have a commercial 15 needle machine and I buy the pre wound bobbins. I buy the Coats brand, I have not tried the others. If I need the bobbin thread to match, then I wind my own bobbins.

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by sdrise 12 Aug 2010

Thank You

With a bobbin sensor you have to pull off the cardboard sides or purchase sideless prewounds.

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by sdrise 12 Aug 2010

Thanks