dissolve the WSS AND when it dryed NOW it is stuck to the sticky kinda bumpy AND there is NO WAY to unstick because the cut away is in between.....before I got all the information here I was having trouble all the time, now I try the suggestions and the shirt looks wonderul UNTIL.....OH what to do....HELP, PLEASE if you can
1952
mousemaster
Your shirt turned out great!
Now out of all the advice about stabilizers for your shirt what did you end up using?
EastWitch2
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by mousemaster
11 Sep 2010
OK :-) the shirt you see is the one that "YOU" at cuties saved from the garbage...lol....BUT I JUST finished one for my husband as a surprise and I used......drum roll.....sticky in hoop, floated tear away, with WSS on top AND it is PERFECT, the first PERFECT T I have ever had.....I deceided to use the tear away instead of cut away because I have so much of it, and I really HATE the spray adhesive you have to use with the cut away...SOOOO until I have a problem with this formula....this is what I will do......I hope this helps others....Thank you again for ALL the help and for liking my work....HUGS and Flowers
7969Thank you so much for asking this question; we learn more by reading about problems than any other way since there always seems to be many ways to do things and cuties always have so many solutions. Your design is great, by the way. Thanks for sharing,*4U
18403Good Morning Cuties, Well after ALL the problems that all you wonderful cuties helped me solve...you asked for a picture of the finished product....here it is....I am honored you asked :-)
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by psssst
11 Sep 2010
The design is simply adorable! I am so happy that you found a method that works for you. Now you will be turning out Tee's faster than you can pick out the designs for them and the anguish this one shirt caused you will be a funny and distant memory ;)
1952mousemaster I went embroidery libaray to see how they did their t shirt and I have been doing it their was for over a year and all my t shirt come out great and they stay nice even after washing in a washer . I hope this help you
670I use an iron on fabric stabilizer on back of my T shirt. Hoop cut awayy then baste t shirt to stabilizer . No hooping the T shirt. I use WSS on top of T shirt but never wet it I tear it away with no problem Using real pointed tweezers to pull away the areas like inside a letter. Never, never stretch the T shirt fabric I make sure there are no wrinkles in it prior to basting by patting out with my hands but not stretching the fabric. I usually pin the WSS in place. *
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by meganne
11 Sep 2010
Oh Lillian, I had to share the following with you, you may get a laugh out of it, it was a problem I came across when embroidering Logo's on Bowling shirts for well endowed, (larger) ladies. :-)
If I'm embroidery stretch T's for other people I always ask them to try them on for me first as some women I know wear t's that are too small for them and they need to be able to stretch over their boobs, which of course means the embroidery needs to be able to stretch also.....
I solved the problem by measuring the size of the area to be embroidered before the shirt is worn, then measuring the same area while they are wearing said shirt,
then I stretch the area to the second size when I hoop it for embroidery.
The design looks a bit scrunchy when it comes out of the hoop but as soon as the ample bosomed ladies put on the shirt, the design fills out very nicely indeed. LOLOLOL!!!!!!
HNR, M
145791I have done many t-shirts and only use WSS on top and bottom. Have had no trouble with any of them.
30656Here is a great Picture Tutorial for stabilizing and embroidering on Knit type fabrics such as T-Shirts.
They use Floriani Stabilizers but you can use any other Brand of stabilizers that are the same.
Scroll down and you can click on the pictures on the right side for a close up look at each.
http://www.rnkdistributing.com/kn...
Personally I like the Fusible No Show Mesh fused to the back of the T-Shirt and then float a piece of Tear Away under the hoop.
The Fusible No Show Mesh is light weight cut away stabilizer and doesn't add bulk to the design.
You can use 2 layers of it for stitch intensive designs.
It controls the stretch while you hoop and while you stitch the design.
EastWitch2
www.rnkdistributing.com
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7969I just finished a T shirt, but all I do is use sticky tear-away in the hoop. stick the T shirt on this (so not in the hoop) and i embroider on a slow speed. after the embroidery I tear away the stablizer of the backside. It works for me this way. I don't use a wss on top.
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by mousemaster
07 Sep 2010
HI, that is how I have always done it, however so many of my shirts were not great because the outlines did not line up and soooo I have been on the hunt for the one that works for about a year now....and still not that perfect shirt, well at least, I did it once I usually have a spare shirt at the ready because of so many problems....so I personally need more than the sticky and the shirt...maybe my designs are too dense. Who knows..I use sticky on everything because I an the worlds worst hooper....I hate to admit it, but I am...so I am still on the path to find what works for me and since the only problem I had with yesterdays trial was to get the stabilizer OFF....that is an easy fix...so next time I will try the sticky, tear away under the hoop and WSS on top and see where that leads me....Thank you all again for the time you have given me and my problems...it is so appreciated and help taken...
743097I hoop the mesh cutaway, with the shirt, and slip a tear away under the hoop. I don't use anything on the top. I can't wash my items that are for sale.
17488When I have to embroider lettering on a T-shirt, I like to use a polymesh cutaway. The polymesh is very light, reducing the chance of show-through. I hoop the shirt with the polymesh, and I also use a film-type WSS (Solvy) on top. The reason for the WSS is not because of pile, but because the T-shirt is a knit, there is a chance that the embroidery foot might "push" the knit slightly, causing an unsightly bump or ripple, or outlines may be off (especially where the design or lettering might be somewhat dense). The WSS provides a smooth, stable surface for the threads. Although the garment is stretchy, you want it to be stable in the area where it is embroidered, to reduce puckering - and that is why I use cutaway.
This has given me the best results - and I have tried all kinds of methods. Sometimes you just have to experiment and see what works best for you. Glad the advice you took solved your problems - if you press the dry shirt from the back on a padded surface, it should look great!
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by kalinelson
07 Sep 2010
I came back to read the answers and I'm glad I did....I see now why the WSS is placed on top and will be trying this.....thanks so much
582I hope everything turned out well! Will you be posting a picture of your LOVELY T-shirt? ;D *2U
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by mousemaster
07 Sep 2010
Right now I do not know HOW to get the pictures from the camera to the computer..new camera..BUT I will ask my husband when he gets home IF you really wanna see it.... :-) I have prettier things...a throw and pillow cases for my God Daughters wedding....NOW those are something to see lol....this is just a T, something for ME....BUT I will post them all if you would like. I am new to this and OH SO learning, I can not imagine anyone wanting to see it....I an honored...
63126Thank you for teaching us your "New Tricks"
Now for another good Idea:
IF and when you make Lace Designs. Collect together some of your future project Fabrics and your next T.shirt.
When you wash the WSS off your Lace use a little basin to rinse them in. OR just dissolve some of the WSS into the basin.
Save this water and dip your collected items in the basin. Just dip the section where your design is going to be on the T-Shirt. Hang all to dry and you can then press iron them.
You have now made all your "starched" fabric for easy embroidering.
It works great!
Happy Stitching
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by mousemaster
07 Sep 2010
Sounds great, but I want to be clear on the T shirt thing....the scraps I understand...dip the shirt into the basin where the design is going to be, let it dry and it is starched (so stiffer) and then hoop it and sew? Then what kind of stabilizer would you use to secure to hoop??? Do I understand it all :-)
by bevgrift
07 Sep 2010
I just hoop the T-shirt with two pieces of tear-away. Place the tearaway one this way and the other that way. Tear-away also has a slight stretch.
From Bev
7875What kind of sticky did you use? The tear-away kind or the wash-away kind? The wash-away sticky is nice but you have to really wash it in the sink to get part out and then put it in the machine to get the rest of it out. The tear-away kind can be tough to "tear-away" - it sometimes sticks ALOT (and the longer it is on the harder it is to pick off - and you have to pick it off around the design then wash to try to get more off). Your answer may help folks come up with suggestions...
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by mousemaster
07 Sep 2010
Good Morning, I do not know the brand, but it is tear away and with the suggestion of soaking....and tweezers....IT WORKED....hope this experiment will help others...and OH YES to add....the stitches stayed put that was the reason I used so much stabilizer...this design was words...IF it had been JUST one design like a pirate I just finished for my Grandson it would not have been so difficult....but this was writing and it was inbetween part where the stabilizer was stuck to the shirt that puckered......NOT the embroidery.....
by pcteddyb
07 Sep 2010
Yes, that is what you have to do with the tear-away - pick, pick, pick then pick some more. It is especially awful in between all the little letter parts (yes, I know from personal experience).
11271Wow, you have yourself one big mess and I wouldn't know where to begin to try and fix it but to wish you luck. So far I have not found anything that I would use sticky stabilizer on.
33580OK.You don't need wss on top a normal T-shirt. It has no pile. The stitches will not sink into a non existing pile.
Use iron on stabiliser,no need to use sticky stabilizer, first, then the appropriate amount of layers of normal tear away. If you have a problem hooping that, then just slip the tear away under the hoop.
Remove the hoop as soon as you have finished stitching the design. Any slight hoop marks will disappear.
27382Try soaking the shirt in water. You may have to do it several times to get rid of the WSS. Spraying the shirt will not dissolve it so let's get rid of the WSS first and see if it helps.
169059Oh gosh I really need to think this one out!
I am completely lost why you used a cut away
in-between and honestly not sure
where the in-between point was.
I know when I do tee shirts I primarily hoop a sticky back tear away and a wss on top.
Sometimes I hoop a sticky back wss with a wss on top.
If I understand your dilemma correctly...
You hooped sticky back tear away and then the cut away to the sticky back tear away, then the tee shirt, topped with wss?
OR
the sticky back tear away and then the tee shirt AND then the cut away, topped with wss?
No matter the sequence of events, I do not understand why you used cut away.
Seriously I would be very interested in seeing
"all the information here" and 'trying the suggestions" that you got here to see how you came up with this combination.
I really need to take some time to try and figure out how you can (if you can) correct this.
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by mousemaster
07 Sep 2010
Hi psssst, I read an article here, and the person, said she sold Ts and this was how to stabilize it...sticky in hoop, WSS on top(I personally did not understand that,but heard that more than once) and the tearaway "float" between the sewing plate and hoop, secured with the basing stitch...sooooo let me try again...from layer one...WSS,T,sticky, and the tear away float....I have to say the shirt looks really nice until it dried and alas its not the WSS, I removed most all of that, it is where the sticky is stuck to the back of the shirt, stuck to the entire design, UNDER the tear away...it is....let me find the word...puckering kinda....hope this helps you understand since you were so kind, as were you all to help....I make mostly Ts and I keep trying because I have so much trouble and just want ONE to come out perfectly...Thanks to you all and I will try ALL your suggestions at a given time IF I have not already..Thank you again...This one was my "Fairy GrandMother" one that I designed with a wand and stars...so darn cute, and my Grandson will love it any way :-)
by mousemaster
07 Sep 2010
Oh yea my girl friend uses cut away in hoop, spray on adhesive and does not even hoop the darn shirt, BUT the spray is so messy and its all over every thing in her sewing room, BUT her shirts....perfect...go figure.....
by psssst
07 Sep 2010
I don't have very good luck using spray adhesives they always gum up my needle. For now all I can think of for you to try and do is give the shirt a good soak in water then turn it inside out and wash it with something like jeans or towels (rough fabric may help rub off excess stabilizer) dry it inside out also, maybe the heat and tumbling will wear at more of it. then iron the shirt right side out using a pillow case in between, see if that removes the "puckering"
by mousemaster
07 Sep 2010
OMG!!! Soaking, tearing with tweezers and WALA stabilizer GONE and shirt drying as I speak....TY TY TY...Like I said before, this is the BEST PLACE EVER for help....NOW..I will keep watching and HOPE I can return the favor....Thank you all again......HUGE HUGS and Flowers
by mousemaster
07 Sep 2010
Psssst....I need to add this to your post as well.....OH YES to add....the stitches stayed put that was the reason I used so much stabilizer...this design was words...IF it had been JUST one design like a pirate I just finished for my Grandson it would not have been so difficult....but this was writing and it was inbetween part where the stabilizer was stuck to the shirt that puckered......NOT the embroidery.....
6491I wish I could help but I don't have a clue....on things with stretch I use an iron on stablizer and hoop that, dense design you can float another piece of stabilizer under.....I sure hope someone can help, what a shame this happened....blessings Janet
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