I don't know either, Pinebeach, but I'm with dlmds, I can give flowers & hugs for a bad day. Have you done this before successfully and are just having a problem now, or is this a new technique you are trying? Embroidery Library seems to have tutorials on a great many things, maybe you can find one for what you're trying to do. Or someone here with more experience can help you. I sure hope so, that must be very frustrating! Marji
Repost your question, and ask shirlener88, she is fantastic on lace and 3-D projects. Good luck, I would help you if I could, however, I do not have much experience. I can give you a hug and a flower.