I make & SOMETIMES (not often!) sell items in a shop. Many sites say you can not sell items make with their patterns or designs. Ex: the Ruby doll posted today. I don't download any that say that as I'm afraid I'll forget which ones I can use! I do understand not giving the designs or patterns away (or selling them) but why can we not use them for items to sell? I have seen sites that say not to sell in mass..that I understand! Just wondering.

Don't they mean that you can't sell their designs. That sounds fair to me

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by janetedna 21 Jul 2012

No it doesn't. No design can be copied and shared etc. we all understand that but some designers say that you can't make items and sell them, from their designs, even in small numbers. Other digitisers say we can sell as many items using their designs as we can make and good luck. They are the digitisers I use. Jan

by janetedna 21 Jul 2012

as we can make and wish us luck. They're the digitisers I use. Jan

I make bobbin lace for dollhouses from a book by Roz Snowden. I don't sell the items I make as she has a web-site of her own selling what she has made from her own book. That seems fair to me. I would understand these digitisers who put these restrictions on their designs use, if they made and sold their own items at the same time as the designs. Does that make sense? Jan

Never sell anything, just give it away, so it's never a problem. Maybe some day, if I decide to sell I will design the pattern myself, then no problems.

I like to make baby quilts I never maj=ke 2 alike I make one of a kind if I can not put a design in my baby quilt I just delete it because I am trying to help supost the house hold and my sales is nessery to that.
my husband is working 3 days a week and my son has no job also he is not able to work. so any one that has a design I can not put in a baby quilt Bye I will not buy or down load a free one from you.
Lenamae

I understand the "big name" designers doing this, like Disney, NASCAR, etc., because they can get a lot of money licensing them to companies to mass produce t-shirts, tote bags, whatever. I don't understand designers who produce what I might call 'ordinary' designs limiting their use for craft fairs, etc. I perfectly understand limiting "mass production" by companies, but gee, how many tea towels can one home embroiderer make & sell, you know? And the designs are "ordinary" in the sense of being a generic flower, bunny, bowl of peaches, whatever. Yes the designers who put this limitation on are certainly shooting themselves in the foot. I don't bother downloading even their freebies, let alone purchasing designs from them; if I decide to sell something, I don't need the hassle of trying to remember. Just a personal opinion, but I don't think they're being very business savvy doing this. Some clipart sites have these restrictions, too, you can digitize it, but not sell the designs you digitize. Whoopie. So I go to places like Clipartopolis, who has nice clipart and generous terms of use, and is digitizer-friendly. Just read carefully, and patronize digitizers who don't have these kinds of rules, I guess. Too bad, some of their designs are very nice, but what's the point if you can't use them. Hugs, Marji

I also don't d/load designs that say not for items to sell, just in case I forget!

Thanks for asking the question.

The designers shoot themselves in the foot with this one...if you can sell items at Craft Fairs/Shops etc (not mass produce of course). It gives you more money to buy more designs from designers who are OK with selling their designs.

Actually the disclaimer with purchased/gifted designs of not selling at finished product as far as going to court if you did...may suprise a lot of people of who actually wins those cases (even Disney). I won't go into details as it may stir up arguments here as there will always be someone who disagrees and flips out.
Muffy :)

I think I saw the Ruby doll and did not download it. I try to read what they want, however it is tough enough to remember who did the design as well as what their policies are as far as art credit and digitizing credit. I think I need a database. lol!

I would never share the patterns or designs that I collect. But I know that some of the things we make and give as gifts end up in yard sales or thrift stores. Are we at fault when that happens.?

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by marjialexa 19 Jul 2012

Don't see how you could be. Gifting was your intent, you didn't make money on it. What the 'giftee' does with it isn't your responsibility. Besides, it would take a certifiable crazy person to go around thrift stores looking for designs that weren't supposed to be sold, no?

by marjialexa 19 Jul 2012

weren't supposed to be sold, wouldn't it? And then what, dust the tote bag for fingerprints, round up Salvation Army workers for questioning, who donated it? No designer could be that crazy.

by marjialexa 19 Jul 2012

At least I would hope not....

Where is the Ruby doll? It's so hard to find things sometimes when people post with little info or many times the same things.

I agree with what you say. When I first started, I didn't worry about it as all I was doing was for gifts, but now I have a few requests and I know I haven't used a no-no design so far and hope I don't accidentally do so. I watch that now and don't d/l if it has restrictions as I may want to sell later - better safe than sorry.
I think we all agree we should not sell or give away the patterns or designs.

I would draw my own doll pattern in that case. The concept is a very old one, the shape you can decide on yourself.
I agree with you: it's strange to give the pattern and at the same time forbidding to sell made items (commercial use is another matter of course).

I am so in to what you are saying. Especially, since I do a little craft market and I cannot make things that I cannot sell there. There is no time to waste in doing something that is for selfishness.
I understand not to share a design and I refuse to do so. Limiting quantities is also understood. Lovies.****

I'm with you totally. jan

I too don't download - if I plan on making more than one - when there are restrictions. But if there is something that I want for one of the Grands - then I will download it & make a note on the file name or instructions.

I don't know. Some sites even restrict any and all changes to their design, which I take to mean color changes as well. But trying to be a good citizen, I want to respect rules anyway. I too can't remember which restrictions apply to which design. As a result, I simply do not buy/download any design that has those kind of restrictions that limit what I need them for. The problem is that sometimes I can't see their restrictions until after I buy the design. So I make note not to buy from that site again.