by chenille 09 Aug 2012

I think I'm having a "senior" moment....

The ads I read say that mesh stabilizer is great for dense designs.Does this mean that it can be used where regular cutaway is used?
I know that regular cutaway seems very heavy and not pliable.I am wondering if I use mesh stabilizer (how many layers?) if it will make my more dense designs more pliable and stabilize as well??
Thanks,Hugs, Nadyne

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by sewmary15 11 Aug 2012

Thank you so much for asking this question. The response to your question have provide me with alot of great information. Thank you also to all who provided answers.

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by eastwitch2 11 Aug 2012

The Floriani Website has a lot of information on stabilizers and how to use them.
They have a Workbook that you can print off in pdf form - first link.
And also a Quick Reference Guide that you can print off.
Links below.
EastWitch2

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eastwitch2 by eastwitch2 11 Aug 2012

For the Work book use the second link (Reference link) and then look for the words "Workbook" in the tabs box near the top of the page.
Click it and it will load a pdf of the Workbook that you can print off or save to your computer.

chenille by chenille 11 Aug 2012

I will go there right now. I do have stabilizer lists and info but not a lot mentioned re the mesh.

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by eastwitch2 11 Aug 2012

Here are some links to Fred Lebow's website that has several of the stabilizers listed and if you click on each there is a discription and instructions on how to use these stabilizers.
Fred has been developing stabilizers for many years.
He helped develope the Floriani line of Stabilizers and The Cotsworld stabilizers line that is now being sold by many vendors.

First link is to the product page where the stabilizers are listed.
Click on each and read the information.

Second link is to his homepage.

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chenille by chenille 11 Aug 2012

Great! Thanks.

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by Janus48 10 Aug 2012

This has made me think. It would be great if some company would make a "sample card" of all the different stabilizers..and then write a small blurb to tell what each one does and how to use it. Or is there something like that out there???

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marjialexa by marjialexa 11 Aug 2012

I got something like this at a Floriani seminar. Also, I think I remember getting a sample pack from Terradon's website, too. They also sell pre-wound bobbins & supplies.

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by eastwitch2 10 Aug 2012

The Non Fusible and Fusible No Show Mesh o show Diagonal Mesh witch is a newer product will hold from 10,000 to 12,000 stitches per layer depending on the stitch type.

2 layers of any of these will hold twice as many stitches.

With either type you can use 1 or 2 layers and add or float under the hoop a layer or medium weight Tear Away stabilizer for better design definition and also for supporting more stitches.

The fusible types are great to use on knit type fabrics as them control the stetch of the fabric while you hoop and while you stitch your design.

These can also be used as stabilizer for Quilt blocks that you embroider and can be left right on the block and sewn in the seams when you put the blocks together as the stabilizer is light weight and will not change the drape of the fabric or add bulk to the embroidery designs.

EastWitch2

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eastwitch2 by eastwitch2 10 Aug 2012

Correction: The non fusible & fusible No show diagonal mesh holds 10,000 to 12,000 stitches per layer.

eastwitch2 by eastwitch2 10 Aug 2012

The older product Non fusible and Fusible No Show Mesh hold aboput 8,000 to 10,000 stitches per layer.

chenille by chenille 11 Aug 2012

Thanks! This really helps.
Hugs again :-)
Nadyne

pennyhal by pennyhal 13 Aug 2012

So if you have a 35,000 stitch design you'd use 3 layers of stabilizer?

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by jofrog2000 10 Aug 2012

I use iron-on mesh stabilizer for Tshirts,fusing an oversize piece on the back, hooping a light weight cutaway, and then spray that with KK2000 to hold the T down, and pin them together. That way the knit material is stable and they turn out great.
I would not just use it as the only stabilizer.

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chenille by chenille 10 Aug 2012

Sounds good.Will give it a try....
Hugs, Nadyne

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by gdsteliga 10 Aug 2012

Thank you

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by tilde01 10 Aug 2012

Thank you for asking. Learn something new every day.

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by 02kar Moderator 10 Aug 2012

Cutaway comes in a variety of weights. Go to Allstitch and check out their stabilizers. They have several different weights of cutaway. It was a good education for me.

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chenille by chenille 10 Aug 2012

Great! Thanks for the link.My cutaway is very thick,it works but I end up with a very stiff product.
Hugs,Nadyne

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by marjialexa Moderator 10 Aug 2012

They say so, but I have some, and I wouldn't use it with the truly dense designs from Embroidery Library. I got it specifically for t-shirts, because of the softness, but I wasn't happy with some of the results, even using 2 layers. I'd get some and try it out, test it with the design & fabric you want to use. It should have a stitch count it will support, 1 & 2 layers. Or, use 1 layer of the mesh and float tearaway underneath it, that way you'll get extra support for the stitches, but when you tear the one away, you'll only have the soft edges of the mesh left. Let us know how you make out with it. Hugs, Marji

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chenille by chenille 10 Aug 2012

Thanks. I was thinking of using on quilting cotton.I will experiment a bit.
Hugs, Nadyne

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by nancygiroir 10 Aug 2012

yes, it can be used like you do with regular cut away. I've been told to use 2 layers...place your first layer as you normally do and then place the second layer on a diagonal for more stability.

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chenille by chenille 10 Aug 2012

Thanks!I will try this too.
Hugs, Nadyne
ps Welcome to Cute!

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by bevgrift 10 Aug 2012

Thanks for your Question.
I don't have this yet but will get some at my next visit to the fabric store. Would love to try on Tshirts.
Hugs Bev

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by oigelcox 10 Aug 2012

I dont know about dense designs but I use it instead of cut away and tear away as it leaves a softer feel to your embroideries. I also use it on Tee shirts as it is softer on the skin. I always use 2 layers but the manufacture says 1 will do. You can buy it in Black white and skin colour. I hope this is a help. Hugs Joyce

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chenille by chenille 10 Aug 2012

I have the mesh..just have to use it!
Thanks!
Hugs, Nadyne

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