HELP !!! what am I doing wrong ????? on the front it looks perfect but the back tells a different story. I cleaned my machine from all dust and bits in the bobbin area before I started, I changed the needle, used a light weight stabilizer on the back, I am using Maderia embroidery thread. The praying hands have sewn perfectly, but EVERYTIME I try and do this type of script the cotton keeps breaking and I get this mess on the back, ..... I love this type of writing, I haven't removed all the stabilizer yet, but am so cranky with myself about this, please can someone help me, I don't want to give up on this one as I am making it for someone special. By the way when it came to do the stitches for the lettering I slowed the machine right down, and it still happened
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Hi Trish I can empathise with your problem so would like you to consider the following suggestions, which you may or may not have already tried. :-)
I would use a finer needle, 65 or 70,
I would add a layer of, fabric type, water soluble stabiliser ON TOP of the fabric as well as underneath as it will give better support to the stitches than using tearaway,
if necessary I would tighten the needle tension by one or two points.
Slowing the machine (if possible) can often help too.
I (personally) do not like using embroidery thread in the bobbin (for small text), as it is usually 60 weight, where specialised Bobbin thread for embroidery is between 70 to 90.
Another option to consider is to sit with the machine and (wherever possible) when there is a jump stitch, stop the machine, pull the bobbin thread through to the top and hold both threads gently as the machine starts stitching the next section, to prevent the threads being sucked up underneath. It sounds fiddly but it could make the difference between tidy and messy.
Hope this is helpful.
Hugs n roses, Meganne
Melide Menschen Designs
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by meganne
09 Apr 2015
Sorry I can't give any more helpful advice as I don't know what size your text is, whether you digitised it yourself from a font in your 6D program or it is a PRE-digitised alphabet you just put together in the program, but.....
I was just trying to magnify your images to check something..... Does the text have an outline around each letter? If so, can you re-create the text WITHOUT the outline.
Also, if it has underlay stitching, try removing it completely and don't forget to add PULL COMPENSATION for all segments of text.
You could also reduce the density of the text as well,,,,,,
Do hope you are successful with it as it does look so lovely.
by Trish56
09 Apr 2015
I was wondering about the washaway stabilizer, will try that on the one I am going to attempt today, The font is from my 6D programme, I am only new to this and haven`t worked out how to do my own digitizing yet, so I use the fonts that are in the programme or in my machine already, the text does not have stitching around the satin stitch, I always use Bobbin thread in the bobbin, should I use the embroidery thread that I amusing in the top ? would that be better?. Many thanks for your help and advice,
by meganne
10 Apr 2015
I personally prefer to use bobbin thread in the bobbin unless I absolutely must have it identical on both sides, but of course this shouldn't apply to text as you can't read the reverse side anyway. True?
As I see it bobbin thread was created to use for a reason, because it is lighter in weight so it actually works better.
The only time I use embroidery thread (instead of bobbin thread) in the bobbin is if I am doing Free Standing Lace (FSL) or I am embroidering a design, other than text, on a towel and I want it to be reversable.
Another point worth considering is the BRAND of needles you use. Now it may sound stupid but some embroidery machines actually stitch better with some needle brands than they do with others and this can also be so with THREAD brands. I'm sure if you asked other Cuties about this they would nearly all have a story about their machines preferring one particular brand of thread and/or needles over another.
My Brother 705D prefers Brother Bobbin thread whereas my Elna's and Husqvarner all prefer SchappeSpun thread and without exception all my machines prefer Schmetz needles for embroidery and Superior Titanium Top Stitch needles for use with metallic threads.
The best advice I can give for embroidering small text is to make sure the fabric is well stabilised both top and bottom, it gives better support for well formed stitches and the top stabiliser prevents the stitches from sinking into the fabric.
I am sure you will sort this out, with trial and error and when you do it is wise to keep a record of the steps you took that gave you the best results.
If all else fails email me and I will digitise the text for you but I think your problem lies more in the technique than the actual design.
OH, and I absolutely NEVER use the automatic jump thread trimmer on my machines as they just make a big mess. Hugs n roses, Meganne
122864I always cut off my thread cutter for small text. I also use the same thread in the bobbin as for the embroidery. I think you also need a fairly solid fabric for designs with small dense texts. If you want to use a really fine fabric, try increasing the size of the design. This will lighten it up!
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by Trish56
09 Apr 2015
Yes , I was wondering if the weight of the material might have had something to do with it as well, am going to try it again on some calico and see if everyone's suggestions have fixed my problem. thanks for your advice, will post my results
140717Dear Trish, I was just wondering how your sample piece of fabric has gone with your new test stitch out? Love Chris
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by Trish56
09 Apr 2015
I am going to have another go at a test piece, it has taken me a bit to find where all the symbols are on my machine from the manual, so I can turn tem off, as it has been suggested to turn off the auto cutter for the font, I also thought that maybe I should also untick the box in my 6D programme that asks if I want the machine to cut between letters too, am thinking that there would be extra thread there, .... so tomorrow is the big day I am testing all the suggestions that has been given, .... fingers crossed this works. will post he test sample, even if its a flop :)
234496You say your using cotton thread. That thread IS lint producing. So you may have to switch to a non-cotton thread. But I also had a problem and my tech said I had not cleaned the cutter. She then triggered the cleaning program - sure enough there were a couple of clipped threads in the cutter itself. Small text requires the newer lighter weight threads to stitch cleanly. Some people use bobbin weight as top thread to avoid buying the super fine embroidery thread. Good luck.
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1135I frequently have this happen too, but not as severe as yours is. Thanks for posting this as the suggestions given are a big help to me too!
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by Trish56
06 Apr 2015
It is so annoying, I think it is good to post our flops as well as our successes, I feel that maybe I am not the only one having this problem, so posting it might help someone else, The cuties are a wonderful pool of people, they are a help desk 24/7 have helped me so much.
When I conquer this one, I will post the results, both sides, and what I did, which will probably be everything that has been suggested.
Thanks for looking
33641I have this happen all the time when doing lettering. It is simply a matter of the stitching being to dense. If you have an embroidery type program you can reduce the number of stitches and it should stitch perfectly. I have the 6D Stitch editor and it allows me to remove unnecessary stitches. You'd be amazed. Usually it reduces the number of stitches by over 1000!
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by Trish56
06 Apr 2015
I have the 6D embroidery programme, I will have a look and see how to reduce the amount of stitches, thanks for your advice
17161Hmmm, this usually happens when the lettering is too small...did you purchase this as an alphabet or is it a TTF that you made in your digitizing software...for a test, I would try to increase the size of the lettering and try it out again on a sample of fabric. Lots of fonts are not digitized to be made small and especially some of the script type fonts...if it was reduced the satin stitching may be less than 1mm and that can cause problems stitching...
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by Trish56
06 Apr 2015
The font was /is part of my 6D programme, thanks for your advice, I will do it again as suggested on a scrap of material.
318428I agree with mrskiki. If you turn off your automatic cutter you will have to cut jump stitches but it will look so much neater. The extra length of thread needed for the automatic cutter will gather in the back. When you figured it out what helped let us know.
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by Trish56
06 Apr 2015
Yes I am starting to see from everyones advice that this problem I have is fixable, I am making a list of everything and going to sit down with manual on hand and my list and try again, thanks heaps for your help.
109774Use Sharp size 65 or 70 needle, bobbin weight thread, make sure bobbin threaded correctly as well as top thread, turn off auto thread cut. Also when you are doing your lettering in your software-decrease density of your stitches.
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by Trish56
06 Apr 2015
The density thing makes sense to me, so I am going to have a look at my 6D programme and see how to do it. Thanks so much for your advice
18480When you do small lettering, use bobbin weight thread in the needle. And turn off your automatic cutter as that is what is making the blobs underneath. Good luck with your beautiful design. Hugs. Nan W
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by Trish56
06 Apr 2015
I have bobbin thread in the bobbin, will turn off the auto cutter, and try that. thanks for your advice
11927Such a pity when this happens. Looks like your tension is off. I do hope you can get it all sorted out. Love Chris
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by Trish56
06 Apr 2015
Thanks Chris, it has made me so cranky, but I am going to get my manual out and see if I can adjust the tensions as you and others have suggested, I will then try a sample run on some calico and see if it makes a difference.
thanks for your help
234496If I'm going to have trouble with embroidery, it will usually be with text :( I think many of us reduce the upper tension a tad for text as well as slowing the machine down as mentioned. This looks to me like the upper thread might be a bit loose as it seems to be looping below. If you've re-threaded and made sure that the thread is between the tension discs by pulling the thread a little while the foot is down, it might be time to fiddle a little with the dial to see if you can improve things.
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by Trish56
06 Apr 2015
I will have to get my manual out to find out how I change the tension, I have a Husqvarna Diamond, it has no dials, so there must be some buttons that I would have to adjust, thanks for the advise, I will check the book and then do another run on the lettering on scrap material.
thanks for helping
23163When mine did that in the bobbin case the black thing were the thread goes threw was a small piece of fuzz .I blow mine out now with my hubby air pressure machine even my machine .the repair man showed me thats what he does lol check it out ok.
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by Trish56
05 Apr 2015
thanks I thought I had got all the fluff, as I was trying to embroider on towels prior, but maybe there is still some there that I missed, will check, thanks
by rescuer
06 Apr 2015
If you have not been shown how to do this by a repair shop -- then don't do it. You can force the fuzz into the computer areas of the machine causing shorts, overheating and other serious issues that will cost you hundreds of dollars or worse...
by Trish56
07 Apr 2015
I don't have an air pressure machine, so I am safe there, I have a little brush thingy that catches all the lint and fluff left behind, it came with the machine, that is all I use, I keep using them until it don't pick up any more fluff, Thanks for the advise, I am a bit scared to do too much as the machine did cost a lot of money and I don't want to damage it. It`s my pride and joy at the moment !!! :)
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