Got these done last night for 2 different clients.......the tank tops I did with metallic threads.....the bowling bag (no, I did not do the Brunswick design) I did the first name, then the last name and lastly his nick name in the middle.......I used my 4x4 hoop and did 3 separate hoopings.....it gave me more control than using one big hoop..........did not use stabilizer either and it stitched perfectly.....