Mary, Your comment in one of the other posts stating that eBay did not have an email messaging, would be one of the reasons that eBay stresses to keep communication through their eBay messaging system so that they can access any of the messages, if there ever is a problem as they could see the communication and know that there had not been anything altered, along with they can take care of things quickly when they are not needing to wait on getting those email messages printed off and sent to them, for them to continue to address an ongoing problem. Sellers can get into trouble with eBay if they are luring people to email rather than using the eBay messaging system. This person likely knew this, and had you take the communication through email, where it sounds you did not understand just why that could cause a concern for you. That seller likely feels that what is being said through their email would not get them in trouble with eBay, or that you will not file a police report against them, or send those emails to eBay. The intimidation they are trying on you, IS going to get them in trouble. PLEASE do send those emails to eBay and PLEASE do make a police report. This person would most definitely be called on the carpet by both the police and by eBay. This really is not something that you need to worry about progressing past a police report, because the police will tell that seller to knock it off and to not show up on your doorstep. You said you do not want to make the person even more upset. I and all the Cutie's here along with eBay and the police want YOU to be safe. When the seller is bringing all this on themselves for their own conduct, we all do not care what they want or like, we want above board legal transactions not threatening and harassment by sellers to get their way. That seller likely will not want to get the police involved. Just make copies of all your messages and of all the UPS pictures and receipts and take them to your local police station. Since Orlando is a larger area, you may want to call the police business line on Monday- NOT the 911 line, and see when would be the best time for you to bring in your paperwork to make that report. Stress the points Dennis made in his post about your health etc. Likely the police would have you come in during the Monday through Friday work week and during the time that the officer who is over this type of situation is scheduled to be working. If you have difficulty getting around, then the police may even be able to send the officer to your house to take the report. Now if you do not make that report, then you possibly may have that person show up on your doorstep, though I also doubt that they would bring this machine back to you, they are just trying to make you afraid or want you intimidated enough that you give in to them, and since you have already been validated by eBay and you are not willing to accept the junk machine they sent you, that only leaves that they are trying to frighten you. Showing up on your doorstep would not lead you to give them any money, so this is solely to try to scare or intimidate you. They will not take you to small claims as they would have to pay filing fees to do so, and with eBay already siding with you, then they would be guaranteed to loose. Having a police report filed also will be in your favor in the unlikely event that this person does anything else. The seller is just mad that they did not get away with their own scam against you. This kind of hassle is why many people just chalk up situations like this to being a lesson learned. It can be very stressful. It is sad that people often are not willing to go through the hassle and would rather loose their hard earned money and get some junk rather than to hold a seller accountable. I am glad you allowed eBay to evaluate this situation, it is just a risk when you have to agree to eBay's arbitration of the situation. Thankfully now, you will be reimbursed. Hopefully all this has not soured you toward making other purchases through eBay and PayPal, just evaluate each site thoroughly. There are still good businesses there also, but there are also too many on line who sell stolen merchandise, which may be another reason that this seller may not want to draw any attention from a police officer. EBay has backed you. When the emails of their threats against you are seen by eBay they will likely loose their eBay selling privileges or at the minimum be put on probation and have limited selling privileges, which was what happened to a seller I had problems with several years ago as they were limited to just 4 items for sale at one time, once the seller in my case had additional problems with another buyer, they were fully cut off from selling through eBay. If you can still edit your feedback for the machine you can put in the threats they have done to you. This type of review will cost them dearly, as there will be far less people willing to do even the smallest of business with them, that is IF they are even allowed to keep any of their selling privileges. If you state in that review that per eBay's advice you will be making a police report, sending in their emails to eBay and that any further email contact will not be read by you, but be forwarded to the police officer that will be over the police report, that seller would have to be off his rocker to push things even farther than he already has! I do hope that since you won the judgment from eBay that it should be very soon as to when you get your reimbursement. In my case it was within a day or two max, though my situation was far less money than your sewing machine. Once you have your money back, then you can put this all behind you, as long as you do make that police report so that you would be reassured that the seller would not be showing up on your doorstep. If after making that police report the seller STILL showed up, then I would have to agree with bevintex that the seller must have a mental imbalance, but I hope that you will have no further contact with them and you will hopefully be telling us of your new machine next week, that is my hope for you anyway. Pam
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Wise words. Thank you Pam.
Thank you I will follow your advice
I already have y full money back Thank you all for your advices. I always say this is a wonderful site.