My machine didn't come with the 4X4, which at the time wasn't a big deal, but when you are working with smaller items, it's best to have a smaller hoop. I was using my daughters, but she lives a bit away and it's hard to use hers as she uses it often also... I'll check back with everyone this afternoon. BTW on a funny note.... I bought a design package with pine/cone garland.... d/l into my computer and now I can't find which folder it went too. LOL So it will take a while to find it. hehehe... Have a wonderful day.