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by justsew 20 Feb 2012 ( edited Feb 21'12 17:58 )
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I have just stitched out a FSL design. And before it finished the stitches cut through the stabilizer along the outside edge of it, and it was spoiled. What did I do wrong...? I used two layers of the WSS, it was a new one not tried on its own before it is called solvie, Did I hoop two tight? In the past I have used one layer of Solvy and one layer of Madeira Avalon Plus. And had no problem, but I ran out of the Madeira. It can be very expensive to learn from your own mistakes, so I look forward to your advice. Thank you. Hugs Pam.

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by mops 20 Feb 2012
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Two layers of what sort of stabiliser? For FSL it is best to use type of water soluble stabiliser that looks like woven fabric or the 'plastic' type like Badgemaster (which is 80 micron instead of the 20 micron you use on top of fabrics like fleece), two thin layers don't do the trick.
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by justsew 20 Feb 2012
Thank you for you help,I will look for this in future, and will keep you coments.

Hugs Pam.
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by dino 20 Feb 2012
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I have done lots of FSL and I use either Badgemaster or ULTRA Solvy and have had no problems.
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by justsew 20 Feb 2012
Thank you for help. I am keeping this all down so I get better . Hugs Pam.
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by pcteddyb 20 Feb 2012
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Regular Solvy is probably not strong enough for FSL - even with two layers. I use "Vilene" - the kind that looks like fabric with good results. I have used the one from WorldWeidner.com and the Floriani brand. I know lots of folks shop at "All Sorts
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by justsew 21 Feb 2012
Thank you for your help.
Hugs Pam.
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by marcellelewis 20 Feb 2012
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You have already received some good answers. Just wanted to say that I use heavy weight badgemaster for FSL designs. Some designs that have a lot of stitches I use 2 layers of heavy badgemaster.

It is awful to get to the end of a design like you did and have it destroyed. I had that happen to me a few times until I started using badgemaster. I always felt that I had wasted my time, my thread, bobbin, supplies, etc. Plus it is a real down hit to your enthusiasm for the day.

I get badgemaster in rolls from Allstitch. Below I will give you their direct link. In case the link does not work you can copy and paste this to your address bar.

http://www.allstitch.net/department/machine-embroidery-stabilizers-embroidery-backings-for-home-commercial-embroidery-machines-10000.cfm

Marcelle
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by noah 20 Feb 2012
I do the very same as above hugs carolyn
by marcellelewis 21 Feb 2012
Ahhh, we have even more in common. :)

Marcelle
by cj2sew 21 Feb 2012
I like that site. I had never been there before. Thanks for the heads up.
by marcellelewis 21 Feb 2012
I check prices before ordering always and they tend to always have lower than the other sites. Their delivery is very good and they package everything well. Marcelle
by justsew 21 Feb 2012
Thank you Marcelle for your help, I will order some of this it seems the best to use .and thank you for the link.
Hugs Pam.
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by cfidl 20 Feb 2012
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I restart at a position before the break and restabilize. Just cut a piece of scrap larger than the break, wet oneside and it will stick to itself, and the thread already stitched. All is not lost unless something happens and for some reason the pattern shifts, which has happened once. Live Laugh Download Stitch!
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by justsew 21 Feb 2012
Thank you for your help, this time it did come nearly free of the stablizer so no hope but I will try this if anything like it happens again. Hugs Pam.
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by dlonnahawkins 20 Feb 2012
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So sorry that this happened to you, but we learn from mistakes like this. I use Vilene, or Badgemaster. It really depends on how dense teh design for the lace is. I know that is about the same answers as others have given...but we have all learned from our mistakes. Or we at least hope we did.
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by justsew 21 Feb 2012
Thank you for your help, I think i will send for some today.
Hugs Pam.
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by starlizard 20 Feb 2012
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Hi Pam,
I made the observation 4 years ago when I started doing machine embroidery that its a very wasteful hobby. There's only so much temporary fabric glue you can make out of scraps of wss... I'd have gallons of it by now if I'd done that. However, I do use scraps of wss in between layers especially when doing stitch heavy designs. Trial and error is a frustrating way of learning, but sometimes its unavoidable. Hang in there.
Liz
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by justsew 21 Feb 2012
Thank you for your help and yes you are right about tril and error, But now I have the help I will get the right stabalizer for the dense designs.
Hugs Pam.
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by leenova54 20 Feb 2012
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I have found that no matter what you are now and then going to get one that doesn't work. I always use 2 layers of Vilene and it just goes bonkers now and then and I have to trash it. I'll bet that even our queen of FSL, Shirlener88 even has one now and then! Hugs, Debra
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by shirlener88 21 Feb 2012
everyone has trouble from time to time.
by justsew 21 Feb 2012
Thank you for your help, and yes I have had some that stitched out well but I was unsure if it was the stabaliza or my hooping at falt, and it is a lot of thread, time and frustration I did not want it to happen again or it can put you off for future, and I do love the FSL.
Hugs Pam.
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by justonlyme 21 Feb 2012
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I've found that using Vilene (the water soluble "fabric style" stabilizer) works the best. One layer works for most designs. Be sure to not hoop your stabilizer drum tight or it will pull and distort.
Another thing I've found with FSL is that sometimes I get very nice results from putting in a layer of tulle or organza. The FSL will be more sturdy and little bloopers can be easily overlooked or not even noticed.
I've heard lots of people cry after trying to use the clear WSS for a FSL. Good luck. Hang in there and give it another go!!
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by justsew 21 Feb 2012
Thank you for your advice, I will try the oganza idea as well when I get my new stabalizer.
Hugs Pam.
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by toolips 21 Feb 2012
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there are some really good answers here good luck
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by justsew 21 Feb 2012
Yes I have ,havent I, Arnt Cuties just the best.
Hugs Pam.
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by shirlener88 21 Feb 2012
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Pam, whose design did you use - please let the designer know - in case there is something wrong with the design - how many stitches were in the design? And as everyone else has suggested for you to use two layers of the fabric mesh looking WSS - is best - but even some have to have an additional layer - if the stitch count is very high.
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by justsew 21 Feb 2012
yes you are right, Thank you for your help. It was one of the Lamp shades from Lanestich, and I have made two that rurned out fine, with Madira Avalon plus, but I ran out and had to use this other solvy, it was WSS but the see through type, But as soon as I have orded better WSS. With the excellent advise from everyone, and soon I will be doing Butterfys and all sorts. Hugs Pam.
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by justsew 21 Feb 2012
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Thank you all you wonderfull Cuties. with your help I now feel confident enough to have another go as soon as my new WSS arrives.
Hugs Pam.
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by sharonleekesner 21 Feb 2012
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You have lots of wonderful advise on what products to use. I agrre totaooy. I save all my scraps, all of them. When a potential "boo boo" rears it's ugly little head, I place a scrap over that area and sometimes under that area. I started doing this years ago and used up most of my "cheap" wss this way. I often hoop 2 layers of 'not so good wss' and use my big 360x200 hoop and place many designs in it and as a design starts to sew out I place a woven type wss over that area. I have great success with this method even though I have been told not to do lace this way.
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by sharonleekesner 21 Feb 2012
Should read "I agree totally" but it appears my fingers weren't on the right keys. Like a different language!
Sharon
by justsew 21 Feb 2012
Thank you , I think this is a good idea I have some not too good stuff to use , and this is how I will use it up. and I thank you for your help.. Hugs Pam.