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by cfidl 27 Jun 2012 ( edited Jun 29'12 00:23 )
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"Tools" of the Art Post III - Needles What kind to buy? How often to change? Where to buy? How to choose needle? Here is a pic of a lot of needles. Not all needles or sizes are represented, however the question of what, where and how can be generalized. Change needles every 20 – 25,000 stitches. Gold needles last 5X’s longer. Select the type of needle based on your fabric and function and the size of needle based on your thread choice. Organ brand needles are cheaper and longer. What do you think is important to know about needles? Live Laugh Download Stitch!

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by grandmamek 27 Jun 2012
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I buy organ needles for embroidery and purchase them all from Allstitch.com.
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by graciegirl 27 Jun 2012
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Great selection of needles. Do you own a shop that sells these?
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by cfidl 27 Jun 2012
got lucky on craigslist.
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by blueeyedblonde 27 Jun 2012
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Schmetz has a little phamplet that tells you what each kind of needle is best for.
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by dec716 27 Jun 2012
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I have found after 40+yrs that you need to change your needle more often when sewing 100% (or any large % ) polyester. Like fleece,spandex, pinkie and the likes. The reason being is poly causes more friction, thus dulling the needle sooner.
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by cfidl 27 Jun 2012
Thank you, I did not know that!
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by eastwitch2 27 Jun 2012
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I have both Organ and Schmetz needles and find no difference in the lengths of the needles.

Organ needles are quality needles and yes they are cheaper than Schmetz needles.

EastWitch2
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by eastwitch2 27 Jun 2012
i will qualify my answer by saying Organ needles are cheaper in price than Schmetz needles
by mops 27 Jun 2012
In Europe Schmetz needles are cheaper than Organ needles, I think due to the former being manufactured in Germany, whereas Organ needles are imported from the USA (and hard to get).
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by eastwitch2 27 Jun 2012
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Dull needles can cause thread and design problems!
Dull needles are more likely to break!
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by cfidl 27 Jun 2012
Very important tip! You can really tell a difference!
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by eastwitch2 27 Jun 2012
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It is more economical to purchase needles in the sizes you use most in bulk (100 needles) than in small packets of 5.
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by eastwitch2 27 Jun 2012
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Who started the myth that Organ needles are longer?
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by caroldann 27 Jun 2012
I wish I knew cause it is not true. Hugs..Carol
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by caroldann 27 Jun 2012
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Organ needles are the same length as Janome and Schmetz needles. My machines are happy with any of them. Hugs..Carol
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by mops 27 Jun 2012
You are right, I have Schmetz and Organ needles for my EP-4 (they both came with the machine) and they are exactly the same length. This myth should not be repeated!
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by eastwitch2 27 Jun 2012
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Stitching Free Standing Lace can dull needles very quickly. So change needles often!
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by eastwitch2 27 Jun 2012
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Do you know that the regular eyed, chrome Organ needles can be used for both regular sewing and also embroidering with 40 weight embroidery thread.
They come in many sizes.
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by eastwitch2 27 Jun 2012
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For embroidery it is important to use the smallest needle size that will accomodate the weight of thread you use.

For regular 40 weight embroidery thread that is either polyester or rayon use a size 75/11 or a size 80/12. Not any larger.

Using too large a needle when embroidering puts too large of a hole in the fabric/stabilizer when the needle penetrates them and less space or fabric between the stitches.
Therefore the thread of the stitches has very little to hold on to.
This weakens the designs integrity and the design will not look as crisp or nice as it should.
It can cause parts of a design to not turn out right and can cause the design to fall apart over time.
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by dec716 28 Jun 2012
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When sergers first came on the market for home sewers, depending on the brand, some of them took a shorter needle than your 'sewing machine'. Maybe this is where the 'myth' came from.
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by eastwitch2 28 Jun 2012
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ttt
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by sewmary15 28 Jun 2012
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Leather needles: I was curious the other day and went looking to see if I could embroider on leather.
Found that you can but need to use a leather needle. The article said they had a kind of blade on the tip. I had some Klasse leather needles and a magnifying glass. Did not really see a blade but they are definately different and look more like a wing-needle.
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by sarahrose 28 Jun 2012
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My machine has a built chart in the cover and I refer to that for the different needle use with fabric. You have a great selection here. Thanks
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by cfidl 28 Jun 2012
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I found this chart from another post.

Needle Size Selection Information
Canvas 80/12 sharp Lycra, Spandex 70/10, 75/11, 80/12 ball point Coated/water proof 80/12 sharp/ball point Nylon Wind breaker 70/10, 75/11, 80/12 ball point Corduroy 75/11 sharp/ball point Organza 65/9 ball point Cotton Sheeting 70/10, 75/11, 80/12 sharp Rayon 75/11 ball point Denim 75/11 sharp Satin Jacket 75/11 ball point Dress Shirt 70/10, 75/11, 80/12 ball point Sweater Knit 75/11 ball point Golf Shirt 70/10, 75/11, 80/12 ball point Sweatshirt 70/10, 75/11, 80/12 ball point Lace 75/11 sharp point Taffeta 65/9 ball point Leather 80/12, 90/14 sharp point 75/11, 90/14 wedge point Terry cloth towel 75/11 sharp/ball point Lingerie & Silk 60/8, 70/10, 75/11 sharp/ball point Velvet 65/9 ball point
Vinyl 75/11 sharp point 75/11 wedge point. I also found an Organ Brand Embroidery Kit Here is the link!
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[1] organ brand needle sampler
www.allstitch.net
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by 1sewnsew 29 Jun 2012
thanks
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by 1sewnsew 29 Jun 2012
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Everything has been said so I will leave you with a *