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by dragonflyer 29 Jun 2012 ( edited Jun 30'12 19:03 )
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Cuties...Need advice. What do you do when you take your 25 year or so serger that has been working without a hitch in to your dealer for service because it has a screechy noise and you have oiled every part you can, your dealer "services" your machine for a cost of about $60, you get it back and it now breakes the left needle thread...take it back (100 miles to dealer) and he says he doesn't know why it no longer sews properly and doesn't want to spend any more time to fix? Sewed perfectly before service and now bupkis...he will refund service cost...your thoughts?

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by greysewist 30 Jun 2012
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I'm afraid you're going to need to stomp your little feet with this particular 'technician'. Let him know you plan to contact the main parent company and report his lack of service if he is a licensed tech, maybe. I know of some here who have lost their approval to deal with particular brands this way. That or just find someone else! He's not one to inspire confidence in his work, I feel.
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by ssampsel 30 Jun 2012
from most of my latest foot-stomping to the parent company, they really give a care less! this industry is sliding down hill fast!
by ssampsel 30 Jun 2012
this happened to me once & the problem was the older machines have 3 needle positions & the newer ones have 2. they had one of my needles out of place.
by dragonflyer 30 Jun 2012
This machine only has two needle positions...but thanks for your input.
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by justonlyme 30 Jun 2012
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Bill him! I'm not kidding. I've done that before, and it works because then you are off their back. Then find someone else who will do it right. And let the sewing community know that this is not a place to do business. They will care when business starts dropping off.
My elderly serger broke a needle and threw out the timing. I couldn't find anyone to fix it, so ended up having to buy a new one. I'm still bummed about that, because the old one just did a perfect job!
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by dragonflyer 30 Jun 2012
Know your pain...hope your new serger is a goodie!
by justonlyme 30 Jun 2012
OK, kitty helped scroll before I was finished reading. I didn't see the part about the refund offered. Wouldn't it be good if it were as simple as the wrong needles installed??
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by kitty2011 30 Jun 2012
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I would be furious! so unfair.

One of my overlockers started making a terrible clacking noise a few years ago but still worked perfectly well ..(I had always oiled it - but never serviced)

I just ingored the noise.. kept oiling & sewing.

Then we moved. I set it up in the new place and next time I used it I couldn't believe how quiet it was. No more noise.
It's still a total mystery to me !

I would recommend a second opinion, but it doesn't sound like you have many techs to choose from.

sending you hugs if it helps
kitty
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by kitty2011 30 Jun 2012
Oh and my serger is 23years old & still going just fine.... touch wood.
by dragonflyer 30 Jun 2012
Glad your mysterious clacking disappeared and I'll knock wood with you that yours keeps on a goin'...The last thing I expected was to get my serger back not working...still can't figure out how that happened...
by justonlyme 30 Jun 2012
Perhaps it was the surface on which it was sitting?? Mine bounced all around if it wasn't on a very heavy stationery surface. Strange.
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by ssampsel 30 Jun 2012
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good luck!
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by dragonflyer 30 Jun 2012
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Thanks for your input Cuties...What do you think of my asking him to sell me a new serger at his cost? I took him a serger that sewed perfectly with a little screechy noise and he returns a serger that no longer will sew without the left needle thread constantly breaking (it gets wound around the right needle for some reason). Still can't get my head around how this could happen...Thinking I should not leave without a working serger, even if he doesn't make a profit on a new one or a floor model...Thoughts Cuties?
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by sewdoctor 30 Jun 2012
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Take your refund, and check to make sure the needles are put in right. Believe it or not, this is many times the only problem. Make sure they both are put in as far as possible, the left needle will look shorter than the right. They are off-set to allow the looper to reach the right needle.
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by dragonflyer 30 Jun 2012
Thanks...I will call the dealer and ask him about needles as I haven't actually picked it up from him yet...He did put new needles in it when he serviced it...when one broke, I put two new needles in it...but I'll recheck. Thanks!
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by eggyannie 30 Jun 2012
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poor machine it dies after 25 years loyal service and you insist on the kiss of life.
I feel sure that it has earned retirement and the newer models do so much more than they did a quarter of a century ago. I guess they no longer even make spares for it. the dealer had serviced it in good faith and now when it breaks the poor man gets blamed for something that has happend to a piece of metal that has become brittle over the long years. perhaps he is not old enough to have met this particular machine before.
please do not maline him. all good work horses die eventualy.Give it a decent funeral and get a new one that will most likely see you out
annie in the uk
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by dragonflyer 30 Jun 2012
I know it's old, but my service man has been a Janome dealer has been a serviceman for over 30 years...nothing is broken inside and the motor is working great...I'm not malining my dealer, just asking for input from Cuties..I could understand if it needed a part that he can't get...but that's not the case...
by dragonflyer 30 Jun 2012
a new part that he couldn't get..but not the case here. Perhaps it is the needles as other Cuties have suggested? I'll check that out when I pick it up.
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by bevgrift 30 Jun 2012
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So sorry about the "Bad Fix" your poor serger got.
I have seen some bad jobs, not for me but another Lady. Her Serger with a noisy motor went to the original dealer to come back with a new motor. The new pedal does not even reach the floor and they bypassed the on/off switch so the light only works when you sew.
The poor lady puts a low stool under the pedal.
Hugs Bev
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by juanitadenney 30 Jun 2012
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Bad service...... and that's the reason I am afraid to take my sergers or sewing machines to a mechanic. I had a brand new Pfaff and took it to a mechanic and he took it apart and put old parts back in it when he put it back together. When I took it back to the dealer she called me a liar and said her mechanic wouldn't do something like that.
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by meganne 30 Jun 2012
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Obviously you have removed both needles and inserted them again in the correct order?
I can't remember how long I've had my serger, twenty five + years, never changed a needle in all that time.
(I know, I deserve a slap for that)
Anyway, I had it serviced, similar problem, when it came home, I broke my very first needle. (left side)
Thought I'd just replace it, no biggy. Man was I wrong!
Broke another needle, (left side) and thread kept breaking.

FINALLY, I got out the user manual and it said both needles had to be removed and (I think)I had to insert the left side needle, then insert the right side needle. (whatever it was it worked)

In all the years I had used my serger I NEVER knew the needles had to be "inserted" in a specific order.
I do hope when you read this, that it solves your problem and that is all it is.
Otherwise I'm out of ideas and I'll just shut my mouth. :-)
hugs n roses, Meganne
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by dragonflyer 30 Jun 2012
Thanks for the tip...not sure if my needles need to be inserted in a specific order...I will check this out...I would think my Janome dealer would know this, but one never knows...I'll keep you posted...Thanks!
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by dec716 30 Jun 2012
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This is a good lesson. Always test your machine yourself before you leave the shop. I learned the hard way too.
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by rsehorse 30 Jun 2012
I agree with this. I took one of mine in to be services, paid the bill and came home. Tried the machine a couple days later and was not pleased. Some of the fancy stitches still didn't stitch properly. I feel embarassed to check it out in the shop but I guess it is a necessity cause some people can't be trusted. Don't know what happened to the idea of taking pride in your work.
by dragonflyer 01 Jul 2012
When I went to pick it up the first time, I ran a couple of 10" strips and it seemed to be okay...but when I got it home and started making kiddles dresses...not so good. Perhaps what is happening that causes the problem is the how many stitches it stitches...not in the first 20 to 30 inches, but after (?)...I still need to check out the needles as sewdoctor and meganne have suggested...hoping this is the answer...
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by rsehorse 30 Jun 2012
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I would take the refund and warn everyone I know not to take their machines there. Then i guess I would shop for a new machine, since it was 25 years old. Good luck, Susan
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by susiesembroidery 30 Jun 2012
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Next time your serger makes a noise, take it for a drive!!!!LOL. It might be something that is just a little offside, and the movement of the car is enough to correct it - or so it might just be. Mine also did that, and I took it to my dealer. When he tested it, before I left, there was no noise and there was no nose until it gave in. You neer know, hehehe*****