All I can say is Whew!! I combined these 2 designs into one jumbo hoop and it took 3 hours to stitch. My original design calls for brown around the owl, but I wanted to tie it in with the leaf so I opted to use white around the border and wing detail.....both these are available on my website......."Paisley Leaf" and "Whooter"....this is stitched on a black hoodie and I used 2 layers of stabilizer, both tear away and my registration lines came out perfect........Those without a jumbo hoop can make this in two hoopings...